Council Minutes


 
 
 

PRESBYTERY COUNCIL

November 13, 2007

Presbytery office

The Council of thePresbytery Minnesota Valleys was called to order at 10:00 a.m. by the chair Roger Grussing.

Those present included:  Roger Grussing, Dawn Carder, Norma Spurgin, Rallah Madison, Grayson Osteraas, Connie Seltz, Pamela Prouty, Sue Coller, Bob Bartlett, Penny Jo Temple-Johnson, , Pat Kunze, LeRoy Ennenga, Carol Stiles, Dale Champ and Dan Billings

Those excused included:  Sue Coller, Executive Presbyter, Kathy Terpstra, Arlen Sjerven, Nancy Chamberlain, Dawn Linder,

We started with introductions and devotions by Grayson Osteraas.

The proposed agenda was approved.

The minutes from the October 9, 2007 were approved.

Reports

Executive Presbyter

The Executive Presbyter submitted a written report (appendix A).  COUNCIL VOTED to receive the report.

Stated Clerk

The Stated Clerk had an oral report.

Leadership Team

COUNCIL RECOMMENDED to Presbytery the Rev. Bob Maharry to the Nominating Committee and to empower the Leadership Team to submit a name of a male elder from Cluster 2

COUNCIL APPROVED the following people to serve on a task force for how to use the proceeds from the sale of the Riverside Presbyterian Church in Sartell:  Darlene King, Maine, Underwood, Herb Rotunda, Dawson, Bev Modlin, Amboy and Gloria VandeBrake, Brainerd (she is also on the Sartell, Administrative Commission).  Sue Coller will resource this task force.

We had a discussion about the task force to recommend a process/philosophy for the nomination of the General Assembly Commissioners and Presbytery officers.  We talked about having Sessions nominate people, about the previous rotational system and the present system of self-nomination.  Also we suggested for this Task Force to look at the present form and make sure it reflects the suggestions in the Book of Order.  And that the present nominating from be seen as more of an interest survey rather than self-nomination.  Perhaps we need to communicate better with Sessions and Presbytery committees about possibilities for people to serve the Presbytery. 

COUNCIL VOTED to ask the chair of Council to convene a group for the process of drafting the guidelines for the nominating process of Presbytery officers and General Assembly Commissioners.  This group would return their report to Council for final review by the January 2008.  The committee would include one person from Nominating, two from Council and one from COR.  Grayson Osteraas and Rallah Madison will serve on this task force from Council.

Communication Task Force

We had a brief discussion about the survey.

Committee Reports

Budget and Finance Committee

Bea Ourada was present to talk about the audit.  Our books have always been kept on a modified cash basis which means that certain things are retained in the books which would be useful for beyond the current year such as the valuation of the website and the building etc.

COUNCIL VOTED to recommend to the Presbytery that we continue with a modified cash basis for bookkeeping which has been used since the inception of the Presbytery with the addition of a change to show current adjusted value of investments.

COUNCIL VOTED to conduct an outside audit any time there is a change of Executive Presbyter or Financial Manager; this would in addition to the every five years which is already in the Manual of Operations.  This will go in the Manual of Operations.

COUNCIL VOTED to receive the Profit and Loss Budget Performance, the Balance Sheet, the Per Capita and General Mission Giving to date, dated October 31, 2007.

COUNCIL VOTED to recommend to Presbytery that the First Presbyterian Church, Tracy be allowed to dispose of a ten foot by seventy-five foot piece of property as long as there is the understanding that the Tracy church and not the Presbytery is responsible for payment of all fees and demonstrate to Presbytery that the transfer has been done and all fees have been paid.

COUNCIL VOTED to reimburse those Presbytery representatives who serve on Presbyterian camp boards (Clearwater and Lake Okoboji)  mileage at the Presbytery Committee rate, and other expenses incurred when adequate provisions have not been made.

CONCIL VOTED regarding the Windom loan for $5,000 for furnace repair which was added without permission to a roof loan at a local bank.  A letter will be sent to the clerk of session with copies to the moderator of the congregation, the local bank and the Committee on Ministry stating that all loans using church property as security need to be approved by the Presbytery.

Personnel

COUNCIL VOTED to allocate $25,000 for housing allowance for the Executive Presbyter for 2008 and all subsequent years until a change needs to be made.

Dawn Linder also reported that they had a successful evaluation of the Executive Presbyter.

We also talked about the need to adequately train people to serve on personnel committee both for the Presbytery and the local congregations.

Committee/Task Force/Ministry Action Team liaisons

Connie Seltz reported about the Congregational Growth and Development that the majority of their last meeting talked about restructuring.

Dan Billings reported about the International Partnerships which continues to work on the clean water project and potential challenges for the upcoming project.  On September 8, 20008 a delegation from the Occidente Presbytery will be visiting our Presbytery.  The mission worker Karla Kole from the PCUSA has asked to visit our Presbytery; she is the current PCUSA mission worker in Guatamala.

Dawn Carder reported that the Committee on Ministry is considering adding a couple of Saturday meetings for 2008.

COUNCIL VOTED to receive the Executive Presbyter’s report.

We continued our discussion from the “walk through the churches.”

The role of discipleship v. membership

o   Presbyterian identity diluted

o   Faith stories

o   Issues related to congregations that may consider leaving PCUSA

o   Use of Commissioned Lay Pastors vs. use of ordained pastors of other denominations

o   Training about what it means to be Presbyterian

o   Property and finance

o   Determine our pastoral role to each congregation

We broke for lunch at 12:05 p.m. and reconvened at 12:50 p.m.

Gloria VandeBrake and Susan Roberts from the Sartell Administrative Commission met with us.  They gave their final report.

COUNCIL VOTED to place the recommendations from the Sartell Administrative Commission on our list of items to keep in front of us.

We acknowledged those who will be going off of Council at the end of the year and thanked them for their service.

We adjourned at 1:45 p.m.

The next Council meeting will be Tuesday, January 8, 2008.

Respectfully submitted,

Pamela R. Prouty

Stated Clerk